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. and the life of nsa -- let's go pre-cyber. in the life of nsa, you always had a trade-off between the two squads. when you discover a vulnerability, do you want to exploit it to play offense or do you want to fix it to play defense? back in the pre-cyber world we had a pretty well-worn road as to where the line is. i am willing to enter into a debate that that line might not be in the wrong place. that the old approach to it, the old calculation -- i want to keep that vulnerability because i want to use it in the future might actually be technically correct, operationally sound in a discrete one-off decision kind of way but the cumulative effect of the discreetly correct decisions has been a real strategic problem that industry is unaware of of vulnerabilities out there. i actually think the trend line and the more we can accelerate it, the better. it will go too far. you know how it works. and we will pick it back a little bit. but i think the trend line now is in the direction of more defense, even if it has to be at the expense of offense. the degree of what we need to do with the tren
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